RE: Important: @Moderatoes Is it possible to change forum rule on HD section criteria?
@thedarkaxe I tried sending mods a PM for asking clarification regarding posting rules but your PM was full and I could not send any msg to you by the way.
RE: Important: @Moderatoes Is it possible to change forum rule on HD section criteria?
The thing is, all/most my videos that were moved to SD, I still feel belongs in HD. Quality is highly subjective and therefore a reasonable position can be arrived at only by concusses and I'd suggest a voting system(@flowerkingk15's suggestion) as well.
I agree with @suresh006 webrips should not be allowed in HD section unless the source itself is of HD quality and even then there should be a upper limit on their size. I'm not against those who post screen-captured videos, as like @flowerkingk15 said above we have no other alternative for some of the rarer videos and I appreciate their time and effort.
RE: Important: @Moderatoes Is it possible to change forum rule on HD section criteria?
(08-08-2021, 05:50 PM)Originally Posted by bodripordaThe thing is, all/most my videos that were moved to SD, I still feel belongs in HD. Quality is highly subjective and therefore a reasonable position can be arrived at only by concusses and I'd suggest a voting system(@flowerkingk15's suggestion) as well.
I agree with @suresh006 webrips should not be allowed in HD section unless the source itself is of HD quality and even then there should be a upper limit on their size. I'm not against those who post screen-captured videos, as like @flowerkingk15 said above we have no other alternative for some of the rarer videos and I appreciate their time and effort.
Voting system failed in the past (in the old MD/XP too) where people created many Ids and voted in favor of themselves or their friends. Due to this reason, it is not a good idea.
Please correct me if I have missed anything that addresses any of them.
@chicmagnet well I did have my apprehensions regarding vote tampering , anyways in that case my suggestion would be to split current HD section into a higher (ultra? )HD i.e top-notch quality , and another HD section which allows current grey-area videos i.e better than SD but not quite "Full HD".
Keep the pay-rate for the higher (ultra? )HD section same as current HD and the pay-rate for the other HD section equal to SD section.
RE: Important: @Moderatoes Is it possible to change forum rule on HD section criteria?
@chicmagnet bro please check the recent videos of sunil thilak there is heavy upscaling and its a software enhancement done and its not the original videos let him post this upscaled in SD section, becuase video source is SD not HD there is a upscaling done
hope this helps
RE: Important: @Moderatoes Is it possible to change forum rule on HD section criteria?
(04-28-2022, 07:54 AM)Originally Posted by thedarkaxe@chicmagnet bro please check the recent videos of sunil thilak there is heavy upscaling and its a software enhancement done and its not the original videos let him post this upscaled in SD section, becuase video source is SD not HD there is a upscaling done
hope this helps
Time and again.. Speak about the quality of the video..? Why should my upscaled/ enhanced videos be posted in nonHd when they have very good quality..? Have you seen the quality of the video..? That is what should matter first when it comes to posting in HD.. How can you plainly say upscaled videos should be banned / posted in sd section when they are much better in terms of quality than those in HD section..? I have said if the quality is not up to standard i myself will post in nonHd ? Why is it so hard to digest..
RE: Important: @Moderatoes Is it possible to change forum rule on HD section criteria?
Recently my video thread Chellame Chellame 4K was my moved from Tamil HD to NonHD Section by @thedarkaxe for reasons only the god himself knows.. Posting the link here so you can see the quality of the video uploaded.
This is not the first time I have been forced to nonHD section. I have already posted a thread on the absolutely ridiculous double standards regarding HD section of this forum and have tagged all the mods , still not a single piece of valuable reply from any of them. Link here again :
All this person keeps shouting again and again from the roof is " UPSCALED VIDEOS ARE NOT ALLOWED IN HD " " THE ONLY WAY TO DETERMINE A HD SECTION VIDEO IS POSTING A TRUE HD VIDEO WITH MINOR TWEAKS " ( although such rules doesn't exist in the forum )
Why the hell are you so offended by Upscaled Videos my friend.. Let me enlighten you with some irrefutable fact that 4K & Bluray format was not available and used mainstream till the 2010s and even Full HD 1080p formats were not even prevelant in 2000s in Cinema so most of the TrueHD post or HDTV post you are seeing is infact are upscales of standard 480p format done by the team behind the films itself. Even most of the older films in the so called HDTV posts for gemini hd or Zee cinemalu hd or etc.. are 480p standard formats with pathetic 16:9 ratio upscaling just with tag of HD that are aired in the telivision.
So going by your stupid logic you have to literally move every single HDTV or TrueHd posts of old movies in 2000s & 2010s to nonHd section.. But are you willing to do that ? You won't because you are such a double standard guy who masquerades himself as a strict guy and forcing our videos with actually extremely good quality to nonHD section and if we raise concerns or doubts.. You threaten us with your newfound rules and try to silence us.. My friend let me say.. This is a job of moderator it doesn't give you any right to be such a bully..!
Do you know what kind of process goes behind in converting Older 90s , 2000s movies to 4K format that are released in websites like Tentkotta and other otts..? I bet my life that you don't have a single clue. It's because they are upscaled / enhanced with AI engine and color corrected through DI. Nothing was shot in true 4K format or even Full Hd 1080p format those days... For movies back 2010 digital cameras were not even used widespread only Film reels were used. That is the reason why you see grains and white particles in true DVD 9 format. But why am I saying this all to you..? Will you even try to understand what I am saying..?
The people behind this forum can have their pathetic rules for HD SECTION to themselves.. Here even the rules don't matter for moderators like darkaxe who firsthand abuse the power they are given as moderator and absolutely disrespect fellow contributors and silence them.. Imagine this is happening to me who has posted 300+ videos and having 500+ reputation in this forum.. I can't even think what he does to newbie uploaders..
I have Said literally a 1000 times now.. The Quality of my video speaks for itself. They don't even have the guts to accept it and give us a lame excuse of "UPSCALED VIDEOS NOT ALLOWED IN HD" & "DON'T SPAM WITH UNWANTED POSTS" Then goddamn delete every single HDTV or TrueHD videos from 90s ,2000s, and 2010s. So you will accept when the broadcaster or the team behind the film upscales even though they are of poor quality but not from us..?
Checkout the replies and comments in my thread.. Not a single person was disappointed with the quality.. Do you think they are absolute fools to post that ?
To whoever concerned or the founders or the moderators of the forum , this forum is what it's today because of the contributors and the consumers of the forum. THEY ARE THE PILLARS OF THE FORUM no matter what you say. I accept the moderators play a vital part but that doesn't give them ultimate authoritative superiority over anyone else.. Learn to be empathetic and compassionate rather than being intimidating and threatening. Please try to Accept your mistake like we do.. I said I am willing to delete all my poorly upscaled videos from the past till date that have been already moved to nonHD section. But that isn't enough for you..? Then what is..?
Not going to stop until I get a reply from the concerned people who run this forum. You want to ban me for exposing the truth and spitting facts..? Go ahead the loss is not mine it's yours.. Have immensely contributed to this forum and I am still on the process of contributing so much Videos with extraordinary quality are ready to be posted by me.. If you are thinking of banning me.. Go ahead and do it yourself for me being extremely honest..! THE LOSS WILL BE YOURS !!
I know that my tone is very harsh. But somethings should be said no matter what the consequences are.. A small note that I have refrained from using derogatory remarks or unparliamentary words..
RE: Important: @Moderatoes Is it possible to change forum rule on HD section criteria?
(08-03-2021, 02:38 PM)Originally Posted by flowerkingk15
(07-31-2021, 01:56 PM)Originally Posted by thedarkaxeOther uploaders please pour in thoughts this is open discussion and the rules are going to be in place
Looks like you guys have already laid out the pain points from mods perspective. Want to add just few points here as an uploader.
Regarding SD vs HD discourse,
Folks will always want to post in HD since there is no incentive to post in SD. There is no SD hero. No awards for consistently posting rare DVDRips or TvRips. Definitely feel like that is one of the biggest reasons. Just some ways to motivate so folks don't view SD as degrading.
One more victim of this is other regional section. Malayalam, Marathi and Bengali (Kannada used to be but it now has some great HD content) sections are severely lacking because they don't have high ratio of HD channels.
No one is gonna post from Jaya Movie, Raj Movie, Raj Digital Plus, Kalaignar TV, Mega TV, etc for this reason but they often hold rights to the best movies or under the radar/ less popular movies which often have better/hotter/rarer scenes. Old MD used to have high quality shares from such channels.
Adding more rules to HD section is gonna end up in more conflicts. Feel like the long term solution is changing how folks view SD vs HD.
Regarding the criteria,
1. AMZN, JIO usually have top notch bollywood HD vids but regional movies range can be tricky. I have a Rajadhi Raja (1989) Tamil movie rip that is 9GB but looks like CDRip. They cannot be taken at face value just like SunNXT but AMZN, JIO, Netflix often have better quality ones. There are definitely tiers among streaming sources.
AMZN, JC , NFLX >> MXPlayer, ZEE, HotStar
2. Size should definitely be a factor but mods also have to consider that AMZN full movie rips touch 14-15 GB for few movies but those are usually great quality ones. But 4K vids exceeding 1.5GB is definitely not possible unless upscaled.
3. Just have a separate section for 4K. Sometimes members actually believe they are better than BD25, BD50s. Out of the 1000 movies that get released, may be 30-50 are shot in 4K. Though Radhe movie had an official 4K release, the official rip looks like upscaled. On other hand, few studios/distributors like APInternational, Ultra, Bhavani, restore old 4K movies, songs with terrific quality. While those were not shot in 4K but restored, I would take them over the Radhe 4K release which is from 2021.
One last point.
Kindly give the members, downloaders some way to vote a SD topic to HD. Eg. If you get like 10 votes or if 10 folks vote an option like "Recommend to HD" as an option similar to "Wrong/Prefix Thumbnail", that would be great. This way, uploaders will not blame mods when they think the users actually agree that it's HD but mods don't.
Agree with @flowerkingk15 Atleast start a new section for 4K videos that are sometimes better in terms of quality than BD50 / BD25 rips.. It's the least you could do..? The quality & clarity should be what matters when judging 4K videos rather than the source. I am also okay if we set up an upper limit for 4K videos.. As pointed out correctly API , ULTRA & BHAVANI restore with amazing quality.. much better than original 4K / Bluray videos some times.. They too restore quality with Ai enhancement & color grading or DI.
This HD debate on what should be & what should not be is literally killing me.. As I said Quality & Clarity should be the no.1 priorities with a limit on file size is even acceptable..! I am sorry if I hurt anyone's feelings.. I am on the verge of insanity due to my videos being forced to NonHd.. I was blinded by my rage and put my emotions over words.. Extremely sorry @thedarkaxe. But I still stand by every word I said above wrt HD SECTION rules. Please somebody should do something about this..
RE: Important: @Moderatoes Is it possible to change forum rule on HD section criteria?
@sunil_thilak Please accept our apologies if you've felt insulted or threatened. thedarkaxe was only trying to apply the rules. Agreed, could've been more empathetic. We're overburdened again due to the workload. It's more of a result of that. @thedarkaxe has single handedly cleaned up all prefixes under the HD section spending insane amount of hours. Mods are abused most times when they take any action. It's mentally draining at times for just doing what is a thankless job.
I was not aware of your issue until darkaxe brought it to my attention and from your recent tagging of mods. HD section has been a real pain to moderate because of the complexities involved in qualifying something as a HD. Please go though this thread in detail to understand the pain points from both an uploader's perspective and moderators' perspective. Mods should be able to assess the quality just by looking at the caps & can check the file size for context.
As per the existing system, anything manually enhanced is not considered as HD. Hence the moving of your threads to non-hd section. True HD source means Blu-ray or HDTV. Why? Because manually enhancing it resulted in either inconsistent look & feel over various videos or vastly inflated file size for the given clarity or both. This has been the case so far. There were even occasions where some users posted top quality caps on enhanced videos but the video clarity was different. Checking all of this for every HD video was getting impractical.
We're open to updating the rules. But it should get simpler for everyone. If mods need to verify that a video is HD or not only by downloading and checking it, not gonna happen. Why ? Cos they have limited time and all other sections to moderate as well.
We want only one HD section. Also, there is 1080P and 4K. There could be 8K and so on in the coming years. While upscaling old low quality videos into HD like clarity (using AI and DI or whatever means) might be good, we end up having repeated versions of the same video again and again. That contradicts with the uniqueness of videos on the forum. The reason we don't allow reposts in general is, we want uniqueness. A user can download any video from the site and that should be the unique copy of it. We could merge a better quality version with the existing version which is what we're inclined to do.
Merging such enhanced 4K videos with existing HD copies if the quality is better, could be a way. That annoys the uploader who has spent time & effort. Creating another 4K section and a 8K section and so on is creating more and more work for us and won't happen cos we won't be able to maintain them given the workload.
RE: Important: @Moderatoes Is it possible to change forum rule on HD section criteria?
(04-28-2022, 12:10 PM)Originally Posted by sunil_thilakAgree with @flowerkingk15 Atleast start a new section for 4K videos that are sometimes better in terms of quality than BD50 / BD25 rips.. It's the least you could do..? The quality & clarity should be what matters when judging 4K videos rather than the source. I am also okay if we set up an upper limit for 4K videos.. As pointed out correctly API , ULTRA & BHAVANI restore with amazing quality.. much better than original 4K / Bluray videos some times.. They too restore quality with Ai enhancement & color grading or DI.
This HD debate on what should be & what should not be is literally killing me.. As I said Quality & Clarity should be the no.1 priorities with a limit on file size is even acceptable..! I am sorry if I hurt anyone's feelings.. I am on the verge of insanity due to my videos being forced to NonHd.. I was blinded by my rage and put my emotions over words.. Extremely sorry @thedarkaxe. But I still stand by every word I said above wrt HD SECTION rules. Please somebody should do something about this..
Valid point. Quality/look & feel combined with file size which is what we currently follow. Is it possible to put a yardstick on manually enhanced videos ? What file size is considered reasonable ?
My concern with not having a yardstick is it's prone to disagreement otherwise and the HD/non-HD debate will continue.
RE: Important: @Moderatoes Is it possible to change forum rule on HD section criteria?
@chicmagnet bro thanks for putforthing the points whatever whichever however was running in my mind,,,
@sunil_thilak i hope you should have some sanity while commenting on others and being a MOD i never favored any one
Please dont bluff that whatever you posted was HD or an so-called Upscaled HD or 4K , check your shitty old posts which no where nearly matched HD content and also you are just increasing the MB size , check the mobilaa mobila video its nothing but an enhancement of DVD rip of the HQ rip from a famous site, don't throw your tantrums here as if we are all blind to see whatever you upload as HD, kindly abide by the rules before posting , Rules are same for each and every person have a basic courtesy to whomever you are talking, Give respect and take respect
RE: Important: @Moderatoes Is it possible to change forum rule on HD section criteria?
(04-28-2022, 02:02 PM)Originally Posted by chicmagnet
(04-28-2022, 12:10 PM)Originally Posted by sunil_thilakAgree with @flowerkingk15 Atleast start a new section for 4K videos that are sometimes better in terms of quality than BD50 / BD25 rips.. It's the least you could do..? The quality & clarity should be what matters when judging 4K videos rather than the source. I am also okay if we set up an upper limit for 4K videos.. As pointed out correctly API , ULTRA & BHAVANI restore with amazing quality.. much better than original 4K / Bluray videos some times.. They too restore quality with Ai enhancement & color grading or DI.
This HD debate on what should be & what should not be is literally killing me.. As I said Quality & Clarity should be the no.1 priorities with a limit on file size is even acceptable..! I am sorry if I hurt anyone's feelings.. I am on the verge of insanity due to my videos being forced to NonHd.. I was blinded by my rage and put my emotions over words.. Extremely sorry @thedarkaxe. But I still stand by every word I said above wrt HD SECTION rules. Please somebody should do something about this..
Valid point. Quality/look & feel combined with file size which is what we currently follow. Is it possible to put a yardstick on manually enhanced videos ? What file size is considered reasonable ?
My concern with not having a yardstick is it's prone to disagreement otherwise and the HD/non-HD debate will continue.
Why not create One section called Upscaled only , let them post there but should not count it as HD, otherwise many users would complain you know how much has happened in the past
RE: Important: @Moderatoes Is it possible to change forum rule on HD section criteria?
(04-28-2022, 02:05 PM)Originally Posted by thedarkaxe@chicmagnet bro thanks for putforthing the points whatever whichever however was running in my mind,,,
@sunil_thilak i hope you should have some sanity while commenting on others and being a MOD i never favored any one
Please dont bluff that whatever you posted was HD or an so-called Upscaled HD or 4K , check your shitty old posts which no where nearly matched HD content and also you are just increasing the MB size , check the mobilaa mobila video its nothing but an enhancement of DVD rip of the HQ rip from a famous site, don't throw your tantrums here as if we are all blind to see whatever you upload as HD, kindly abide by the rules before posting , Rules are same for each and every person have a basic courtesy to whomever you are talking, Give respect and take respect
If you are judging my current posts with regards to my old poorly upscaled videos which even I myself have pointed out accepted and moved on I don't know what to say my friend. Regarding the Mobila Video yes it's an enhancement of DvD9 print of the film.. But it is infact much better in terms of quality and clarity devoid of the excessive noise, blurs infact that is what enhacement does..! Try playing the Hqrip & DVDRip and my 4k video side by side you will notice the difference yourself.. But who am I kidding ? You are never going to do that and you will never find time for that even..
and also regarding the MB size am I forcing anyone to download 4K version ? I always give a 720p version for people requiring lower file size.. I am not throwing tantrums here.. And you are not blind to judge every video as HD.. But the moment you see the excessive file size as compared with caps you come to a judgement of my videos being a poor upscale.. That is where I find the problem.. If the rules are same for every person judge my videos based on its quality is what I am saying..? What more do I need to prove that my videos have good quality.. Shall I post a screenrecord of how I enhance my videos and send it to you in gdrive / mega with side to side comparison of how improved the quality looks from the original source ? I am very much ready to do it.. Or else shall I send a 30 sec demo clip of my video in gdrive / mega specifically for the mods to inspect and judge the quality in the 4K videos for themselves..? Yes I am also willing to do that. But are you ready for it is my question.? If raising valid questions on what constitutes a HD video is throwing tantrums for you.. Then am fine.. I have got my answer here you are guys are not willing for any kind of argument here . So as long as I upload 4K Videos no matter how good the quality is I have to post it in NONHD.. Even after multiple requests & clarification from my side if you are going to stick with this irrespective of any inch of change then there is no point in arguing and no point in wasting my time & effort to enhance videos. May you find solace & peace in whatever you do with this forum & it's world class rules..!
I AM DONE WITH YOU GUYS. Sorry if I hurt anyone's feelings. It was never my intention to personally target or harass anyone.
RE: Important: @Moderatoes Is it possible to change forum rule on HD section criteria?
I want to say few words first of all about tvrip videos in my personal tvrip videos of old songs or videos have more quality than their ott counterparts,but in some cases it's the opposite.i have the best example
Remastered has better quality in this case but it's usually rare.
If mods cannot download all hd videos and check ,ask uploaders to include few seconds preview clip then I am sure we can know for sure if it's worth it.
And as far as upscaled videos are concerned create a upscaled hd video section give a message that this particular section consists videos upscaled using software,let people decide if they want to download.Isnt why we have different sections of videos?
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Discussion Important: @Moderatoes Is it possible to change forum rule on HD section criteria?
, anyways in that case my suggestion would be to split current HD section into a higher (ultra? 
